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Party dilemma

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I'd actually like to model by party after Dragonlance, but think I run out of room and would like a more balanced male/female party. I'd like as much personality interaction as possible and like playing a pure mage as my player character. Here's what I was thinking initially:

1) PC - mage
2) Imoen
3) Ajantis (reminds me of Sturm Brightblade who I really like)
4) Kivan
5) Yeslick (reminds me of Flint Fireforge)
6) Edwin (reminds me of Raistlin Majere)

But this leaves me with a lot of dudes, two mages, and not much healing. I've played through BG1 once a long time ago and never really liked Khalid & Jaheira much and killed Minsc upon meeting him without knowing how popular his personality is, although I don't think he really fits my play style as he's a little too comical for me.

So I have some questions for everyone:

How much personality does Edwin have? I like that he reminds me of Raistlin.

How much interaction do you think this party would have with each other?

Is two mages too many?

Should I figure out a way to fit Branwen or Viconia into the party?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Average BG gamer age

What class will you play BG:EE with first?

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Looked for a poll on this... And believe it or not could not find one!

So... What class will you play BG:EE on your first run through the game? We wanna know!

EDIT: Bards and Dual classers... My apologies! Ran out of weapon slots! Bards pick thief (Rogues) and Dualers pick Multi-class.

Opinions on Class-Based Ability Minimums.

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Ability minimums in the BG series have always bugged me, because a good number of them just feel completely and totally arbitrary, ESPECIALLY the ones for specialist mages, where the minimums aren't even needed to make the class itself effective. Thoughts on this?

Post your current BG/BG2 character

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Combine if redundant -

If you are currently playing part of the BG series, post your main character:

I have never played a Paladin in BG2, so here goes-

Gregory the Green
Male Undead Hunter human LG
STR 18/63
DEX 9
CON 18
INT 9
WIS 18
CHR 17
Two handed wpn style xx
Two handed sword xx
Flail x
Crossbow x

I imagine the spell progression and HLA make this kit a blast -
I will slaughter Bodhi and all her fell minions -
Yes I shamelessly min maxed this one - well they are bhaalspawn after all...

What is your favoritt spell in Baldur's Gate1?

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So what was/is your favoritt spell in BG1/totsc?
To be honest, i havent played for a while, i can't even remember the names of most of them.
Just out of the top of my head haste comes to mind *shrug* can't wait to start a new tour down the sword coast..

NPC Shipping Thread!

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Okay, so a lot of fandoms are way into shipping. But, when I read BG fanfiction or look at BG fanart, there's actually very little shipping that isn't "CHARNAME/(Insert NPC name here)".
So I started wondering--is it just that we don't ship as much as the other fandoms, or that we only canon-ship NPC's together, or if maybe we have just as many weird, cracktastic shippings as any other fandom and just choose not to share them with our fellow fans.
I have created this thread out of a burning curiousity to know which, if any, joinable NPC's in the BG series YOU ship together. It can be a pair you ship seriously, or a pair that you don't think would ever get together but you still crackship it because it amuses you. Or, anything in between. I just. I want to know.

Starting with your own party?

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I remember in the original you could set it up for multi-player and end up playing the single person game with multiple characters (i.e. your own starting party).

With BG:EE permit people to start with their own party?

The new adventure discusses this, but it sounds like it is only for the one adventure.

BG:EE portraits and tomes question

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If all the NPCs don't transfer into BG2 then is it best to use all the tomes for your PC?

Will we be able to use alternate portraits with BG:EE?

Cleric/Thief - Awesome or Rubbish?

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I'll be running my main first run-through of BGEE with an evil elf fighter/mage, but have been thinking of running a slower parallel game as a Gnome or Half-Orc Cleric/Thief, as I think they might be an under-rated class, if played appropriately, and would like to try one out, but were wondering what others thought...

Obviously they are very limited in backstab weapons - staves or clubs only (plus *some* of the magically generated ones, though I'm not exactly sure which ones work and which don't), at least until UAI, and can only use a sling for ranged, but they can still swap to flails/hammers/maces etc. for melee, which are all pretty good in BG2 (and there's a great hammer in BG1). Unlike a Mage/Thief, the thief can still wear leather armours, and a helmet and shield (when not using a stave).

A Cleric/Thief can scout and find/disable traps and open locks under Sanctuary (though still needs to hide to get a backstab bonus) and can buff for backstabs with Draw Upon Holy might, and there are other spells that work well with this class too.

The Black Pits!!!

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Is there anyone else out there looking forward to the Black Pits? I know it's not a part of the Bhallspwan Saga, but it still looks great and has a lot of opportunities for tactical combat and it might even have some for role play purposes. IE: You, a great half orc shaman (fighter/cleric) and your five barbarian bodyguards got kidnaped by a mad drow making you fight for your freedom against a horde of creature in a bloodied arena!

It would also be fun to try some kits we never tried before and create weird parties with a lot of special abilities that might get boring to use in a single player multiplayer campain. like a group of 4-6 jesters, 4-6 raging barbarians, 6 wildmages ;), 6 priest of helm with their magical sword power ( or whatever cleric kit it was) 6 gnomes because gnomes are so awesome!

Another reason I might play the Black Pits before BG:EE ( HERETIC burn it!!!) is because i'm still unsure what caracter to make for my first playthrough.

I hope i'm not the only one looking forward for this mysterious adventure X in the underdark: THE BLACK PITS!!!!

multi Fighter-Mage: melee vs. ranged weapons

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For a multi-class Fighter-Mage (mine will be half-elf but this poll applies more broadly to all available races) what is your preference for combat style and why?

Nexlit the Xvart Fan Club

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No self-respecting BG site is complete without a Nexlit the Xvart Fan Club, so here it is.

Although this started out as a request, it's never going to happen, so I've moved it here.

My favourite character in the entire BG saga is Nexlit the xvart. Unfortunately the player is forced to commit genocide on the xvart village. Nexlit fights bravely but he is cut down by the complete bast**d of a player character.

Ideally we would have wanted more interaction with Nexlit, perhaps a quest or two. Let the player help him defend his village from invading gnolls. Help them negotiate with nearby human settlements for their safety. Then allow the player to massacre Nexlit and all his bluies.

Instead we have to settle with making a tribute to the great man (xvart), and this is the place to do it.

Selling stolen items in BG1

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Obviously there is the thieves guild, but I was wondering where you can sell stolen goods before that point in BG1. The merchants I'm aware of won't accept fenced goods. I've got two +1 large shields I "acquired" in Nashkel and I'm looking to get rid of them :)

Supposedly (from what I've read online) you can sell to one of the halflings in Gullykin (the cleric I guess) but I have not confirmed this. Does anyone know of places where you can sell stolen goods?

Dual Wield Questions

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Can you folks shed some light on the mechanics of dual wielding please? Especially which weapon put in mainhand and offhand. Planning to use Flail of Ages and Crom Faeyr in BG2.

version franco

Simple question

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I know that is a simple question but i have not understand one thing....don't kill me please.
How do I get BGEE?
In a shop or online only?
I'm so sorry!

Close to 1 million words in BGEE? Well... a printout looks exactly like this. [Image]

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German translation | 1,285,605 words (font size 10); 1,865 pages (in A4 format); ~9.5kg

How in the Nine Hells is it possible to master such a monstrosity in less than four months...?
Personally, I was blessed to meet Mr. 3AM on a regular basis.

It is quite interesting how a visualisation like this alters your perception of the sheer amount of text in this awesome game, isn't it?!

(Of course, I never wasted that much paper! However, the pile has exactly the proper height.)

Are you a BG Missionary?!

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Do you hate it when you get to talking about your personal favourite games growing up or currently, and the person your talking to as never heard of the Baldurs Gate saga? let alone played it!?? T_T
I tend to take this as a challenge to educate them on what they have been missing out on; 'Preaching it to them' to say the least... :P
Sometimes it works, and boy do they thank me... hell why do so many not know about it?!? I'm only 21.

I see it as a cruelty they carry out their existence playing today's lame ass RPG's and never experiencing the challenge and the awesomeness that is the Baldur's Gate series or even the IWD spin offs. So many good memories butt kicking for goodness!
Kivan, glad I always gave you my expensive arrows... bloody life saver.

But what better time then now for it I ask you with BG:EE looming!?.

Am I the only one Boo? ... :/

If I'm not! then...
-How do you go about converting the non believers, noobs or the blissfully ignorant into trying it?
*seeking creativeness!*
-Are you successful?
-Plus, whats the weirdest/ best thing that's happened to you from meeting someone new just like you who also loved BG with timeless passion?

But... That awesome moment when you meet someone new and ask them; "Whats your favorite game of all time?" no pause - "Baldurs Gate!"

image = Instant bfam.

There is an excellent online Baldur's Gate game out there.

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If you ever wanted to experience a really decent MMORPG version of the good old Baldur's Gate game from 1998, the best choice would be to try Baldur's Gate: The Sword Coast Chronicles. It is the best and most popular persistent world ever created for Neverwinter Nights 2, existing for 3-4 years now and still very much alive and thriving probably for many more years to come. What makes it very alluring to Baldur's Gate fans is that most of the game world has been recreated based on the game maps in Baldur's Gate 1.

I will do my best to describe BG-TSCC. Some information about me first. In the past I have played Baldur's Gate 1, Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind Dale, and Neverwinter Nights 1 in single player and six years in multiplayer. I discovered BG-TSCC and started playing it a year and a half ago.

I guess it might be best to provide the description in a form of a FAQ.

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Q: What's in there for fans of the good old Baldur's Gate game released in 1998?

A: Developers recreated the world and game maps from the world and maps of the original Baldur's Gate game and the results are quite impressive in my opinion. If you have played the old Baldur's Gate game, you will certainly recognize many places. The world reaches north of Baldur's Gate to Troll Claw Hills and to the south through Friendly Arms Inn, Beregost and Nashkel through Cloudpeak Mountains to Amn, plus there is an entire big world of the Underdark with the city of Sshamath below the surface for players who choose to play as a drow, duergar, svirfneblin or tanarruk. The whole game world consists of at least 120-150 maps. Players and a big dungeon master team have already established a really complex role-play setting with various clans and guilds familiar from the Baldur's Gate game. The world is not static but keeps changing. There have even been some epic and really huge global events such as a war between Baldur's Gate and Amn (described in Forgotten Realms lore) half a year ago, which left Beregost completely razed (rebuilt now).


Q: How is gameplay in BG-TSCC?

A: Gameplay is somewhat similar to gameplay in mainstream MMORPG games. You create a character and explore, hunt monsters, do quests, buy and trade items to NPC shops or between players, join parties or solo some smaller and bigger boss monsters, participate in various events and quests organized by dungeon masters. Your character is stored on the server and remains for many years just like in commercial MMORPGs. An average player might probably remain interested at least for a year playing there but completely new players might stay for as long as five years. The only reason I have become somewhat bored after 15 months of playing a lot there is that I had played NWN 1 online for six years before I joined and many gameplay elements weren't new to me.


Q: How is role-playing in BG-TSCC?

A: One special thing they have is that sometimes characters automatically get RP XP for role-playing. The thing which impressed me most about role-play is that in the Underdark many people actually role-play in the real language of the drow (Siyo, nind telanth ilythiiri xanalress wun Har'oloth gaer). Role-playing between players and interaction between players and NPCS or monsters controlled by dungeon masters can be often quite deep and serious in BG-TSCC. One reason for this is that role-playing can actually bring power or different real consequences to player characters or be reflected in the world. In most online fantasy games role-playing is just empty talk between role-players but it never results or materializes in anything.


Q: Isn't NWN 2 a bad game for multiplayer?

A: As a veteran NWN 1 player I had negative prejudice towards NWN 2 but after I tried it in 2011, BG-TSCC impressed me so much that it was the only computer game I ever played in 2011-2012. I am waiting for BG-EE because Baldur's Gate games are my favourite single player games but BG-TSCC is the place to go for any BG fan who wants to experience Baldur's Gate as an MMORPG. The games sort of complete each other. You can play Baldur's Gate in single player and then you can continue your adventures in the multiplayer environment of BG-TSCC, though with another character and decades after the Bhaal spawn events.


Q: Isn't NWN 2 full of bugs for multiplayer?

A: I tried NWN 2 for the first time in closed beta test in 2005, then bought and played it for a while in 2005-2007. Many years ago NWN 2 was indeed horrible for multiplayer, significantly worse than NWN 1, though I did like the official single player campaign. However, in 2011 when I decided to try the BG-TSCC, I became extremely impressed with the multiplayer aspect of NWN 2. I cannot say for certain whether NWN 2 became so dramatically better due to all the patches between 2005-2009 or because the world of BG-TSCC is optimized really well and bugs removed.

Q: What is so impressive about BG-TSCC from technical viewpoint?

A: I was impressed because it is a world with 150 maps and 90% of them quite decent (knowing how hard it is to make good looking maps in NWN 2). I was also impressed that their server can handle 70 players simultaneously with surprisingly little lag and that during 12 months of playing there I experienced game crashes only 10-15 times in total and got stuck in some spot on a map only two times. All in all, really excellent even by NWN 1 multiplayer standards. It's also impressive that at least for me it runs without problems both on a really old computer built in 2003-2004 (with Windows XP) and on a very modern computer built in 2012 (with Windows 7).


All in all, it feels like a deluxe commercial MMORPG due to the quality of design of the world and enthusiasm of developers and their dungeon master team.

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If somebody is starting from scratch, the whole installation and patching process is much more simple than in NWN 1.

1. Install NWN 2.

2. Install Mask of Betrayer (and Storm of Zehir if you have it).

3. Run NWN2Launcher.exe. Click Update to patch the game to the final version released in 2009.

4. Launch the game. Click "Multiplayer". Type in some account name and some random password.

5. Choose "Role-Playing" and select "Baldur's Gate: The Sword Coast Chronicles".

6. Connect to the server. All necessary files will be downloaded and sorted out in the right folders automatically. This stage can take a few hours even with fast Internet connection when you connect for the first time because there are at least 2-4 gigabytes of BGTSCC files.

7. Create character and play after downloads are finished.


This is not mentioned anywhere on the forums but players who don't have the Storm of Zehir expansion can take only standard base and prestige classes which came with NWN 2 and The Mask of Betrayer. Without The Storm of Zehir add-on It is not possible to take levels in custom prestige classes such as Dread Pirate, Black Flame Zealot, Whirling Dervish or Ghost-Faced Killer, and in certain maps there will be objects with "missing textures". Fortunately, there is still plenty of base and prestige classes to choose from, and 90% of maps do not contain any objects or textures from Storm of Zehir. Otherwise, you can play perfectly fine just with NWN 2 and MoTB without SoZ.

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Some screenshots showing the game world: http://www.bgtscc1.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=87


Some gameplay screenshots:

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