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March 9, 2016, 12:55 am

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This discussion was created from comments split from: "Maybe this time" [NO-RELOAD THREAD]: "Hypnos saves Mother Eugenia, but alas falls to Cold wights".

Hope people help @semiticgod here!

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March 8, 2016, 1:15 pm

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I died at 1:40 when I saw that floating man on the chair.

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BG3 (or whatever it will be) suggestions/fantasizing

March 8, 2016, 4:48 am

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Just wanted to start a general discussion about BG3, or whatever the next game could be, because I am looking forward to whatever Beamdog does in the future.

***CONTAINS SPOILERS***

The following are suggestions directed to the development team, but are obviously open for discussion and criticism from anyone here.

1st suggestion
(Existing story)
[spoiler]
Do not make another game that revolves around the current Charname or otherwise continues his story. He's done, his story is finished, he's retired, there is plenty of closure. Expansions to the series would be different, but that is not what this thread is about.
There is already a thread for that here:
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/48248/would-you-be-interested-in-another-expansion-to-baldurs-gate-2-ee#latest
[/spoiler]

2nd suggestion
(Quality writing/immersion)
[spoiler]
Present another, different, separate Charname driven by story and immersion over graphics (in the land of Faerun, obviously). BG was very successful for what it was much to the surprise, I believe, of small Bioware at the time. I believe that a small part of that success was in the ability to personalize a hero who affects Faerun in massive ways. He doesn't have to do godhood, or stop wars, or anything that is cookie cutter of the Baldur's Gate plot. But when playing BG1 & 2, it feels like I am Charname, whatever I decide for him to be. BG was produced before flashy 3D graphics, so the developers invested in writing and making Charname feel like a believably real person that you could immerse yourself into over graphics and heavy-handed flashy and expensive processing power. It was about playing a role that you chose to play, whether it be evil, good, or neutral, lawful, or choatic. The plot is good, but now generic because it's been repeated so often, and that plot is secondary to BG's greatest strength (imo): immersion.

[spoiler] For example, NWN1&2 two were fun games...but I never felt the immersion that I feel in Baldur's Gate. The plots were involved, the writing was good, even the NPCs were interesting, and combat was fun, but I felt that I was just walking a generic character around who didn't really have any choice as to what happened to him, like he was being led around by the nose. It is impossible to immerse yourself into that role because real life isn't like that. Sure, I could more easily changed what he looked like, his class, his general alignment. But he never felt like I was him...just like I was controlling his movements. [/spoiler]
[/spoiler]

3rd suggestion
(Customization)
[spoiler]
Make a relatively simple-to-use interface engine for people to customize/mod their games (even the interface engine should be modifiable, even if doing so is not simple). I just critiqued both NWNs, but their biggest strength, imo, is the ability for people to make their own games as DM, which is what D&D is all about after all. That community is still very active as a result, and young/new people who didn't hear about those games when they came out still buy them frequently.

This should be more than just the ability to make a separate, custom campaign. There should be the ability to introduce NPCs and even quests into the original campaign, and package them as zip files to share with others. Baldur's Gate is what it is now because of WeiDu (thanks Wesley!!!!!) and similar programs. WeiDu is a utility that makes it possible, although difficult for the uninitiated, to interface with the archaic code of BG. There would be no BGEE, BG2EE, or even IWDEE without the modders who kept these games alive by their own choice. Rather than taking the risk and relying on the initiative of the modding community to breathe undying popularity into these games, introduce and plan an efficient way to do that for all players, whether or not they are apart of the community.

This would be a much better long-term investment than flashy graphics. It would take some serious thinking outside the box, but it would play to the existing strengths of this wonderful series.

Suggestion for how this could be implemented
[spoiler]
I have often thought how nice it would be to have a game that allowed you to easily write your own NPCs and stories into the game as a side option. For example, I could write out my NPCs greeting and dialogue and even have an in-game recorder option (that could be replaced by those who don't like it) to record sound effects and music and voiced dialogue to play automatically when that dialogue is triggered. There could be a list of suggested triggers for that dialogue to play, such as in response to insert NPC dialogue action here, or after this much in-game or real time has past, or at the start and/or completion of insert quest here. Additional existing triggers could be found online (shown also as a suggestion of "see more triggers"). Each dialogue could automatically have its own customizable trigger in a heading above the written conversation for later reference and use for other NPCs. For programmers or advanced players, additional triggers could even be created. These written personalities could be saved as some sort of out-of-game accessible file for ease of uploading to the community and for easy out-of-game writing.
There are already games like this out there, although not necessarily with NPCs. Startcraft comes to mind.
[/spoiler]

How cool would it be to have the ability to create a second, third, or even fourth NPC who could communicate with your PC, who has his own personality and dialogue that fits his background? I used to spend hours writing background for each of my npcs when I played IWD1&2. Then it was a little anti-climactic for me (although I still love those games) when I realized that they weren't actually alive during the quests. So I would start a new party and write new characters, only to have the same thing happen.

Restartitis, anyone?
[spoiler]
Don't tell me I'm the only one with restartitis for a reason similar in spirit to this. I still spend hours planning out my Charnames, and it seems that a lot of people in this community do the same thing. There is even a separate section on these forums for role-playing. People are always posting their ideas for their Charnames which are more than just stats, class, race and party composition: "My current Charname is an evil *&^%*#* who won't take no for an answer and lives on the edge." "My current Charname is a quiet withdrawn wizard sucked into this whole saving the world thing against his own better judgement." "My Charname is blah blah blah, shut up, I don't care about your Charname, I only care about mine!"

[/spoiler]

Add the ability to create potential NPCs with backgrounds and dialogues. Baldur's Gate has that ability, but not by original design. It is a great asset, but not by original design. Take that original design and make it your own. This is a way to improve the game without necessarily changing any of your existing writing plans.

Gamers are always looking for the next new thing, right? This could provide a way for there to always be the next new thing, AND for them to make their own next new thing.
[/spoiler]

4th suggestion
(Referencing the originals)
[spoiler]
Even though I don't think BG2 Charname should be the central focus of the game, I think it would be an awesome selling point if BG2 Charname was some sort of NPC in the game, or even referenced by another NPC in the game by the name/sex that the player gave him/her and by the race and class that the player gave him/her. Do NOT use Abdel Adrian, unless it is by default, although that is still questionable (yuck).

How this is implemented would obviously depend on the time that the game takes place in. If it took place during a time when BG2 Charname is old but alive, he could be an NPC (not ascended, obviously, because that is a mod).

This could be accomplished by having some sort of interface that could translate BG2 Charname's .cre file or even the entire save file into usable referenced data. This would be similar in concept to the way that you upload a saved game from BG1 to BG2. Charname was a Paladin? Create generic Paladin dialogue response here. Charname was a evil? Create generic evil retired villain response here. Charname romanced Aerie? Create generic Aerie placeholder NPC here with mundane Aerie dialogue. Charname romanced Viconia? Create generic reference to her here that is in keeping with however her history ended. Charname had Minsc in his/her party? Create generic placeholder NPC Minsc screaming about bootkicking for goodness to cure his aching back in his old age, with Boo squeaking somewhere nearby.

He could send the new Charname on a quest to fetch his boots because he's too old to go gallivanting across the realms (kitchen) now. He could be silly, old, and senile, and living with servants in his massive retirement home with tons of money just sitting in random barrels and chests scattered around his home.
OR
His responses could even be customizable using that nifty interface engine that I referenced in the 3rd suggestion. (This should be the most easy thing to use about the engine.) How freaking awesome would that be?
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5th suggestion
(Graphics)
[spoiler]
Don't use 3D!
Seriously, it's expensive and a huge time and resource consumer. There are plenty of 3D games (and even movies) out there that totally suck, suck, suck, suck, SUCK because the developers spent their time and money on graphics over making a good and well-written product. Spend those resources on writing and creating immersion for your players. Keep the top-down 2D perspective because it allows for resources to be spent elsewhere. Your players here are not looking for flashy graphics. You are not making money and producing sales here because the EE games are pleasing on the eye (although I think that they are). That is happening because these games are well-written and immersive. I may be wrong, but I am under the impression that Team Beamdog is a fairly small (but awesome) team. In order to compete with the big name companies that produce huge flashy graphics (star-wars EA), you need a lot of people and money. Don't waste time trying to compete with those jerks. Play to your strengths.
[/spoiler]

6th and finale suggestion
(Just shut up already! What does a bowl of mashedtaters know anyway?)
[spoiler]
Don't be afraid! Just be careful and smart, which you already are.
You guys will always have critics. This is a beloved franchise, and there are purists who will hate you for "messing up" a good game no matter what you do. Although that is definitely possible (no pressure), don't let fear pressure you into keeping with the mainstream. A lot of mainstream games suck lately, especially all those crappy apps. Those people who are buying and selling that stuff will criticize you simply for the fact that you produce quality competition.
You guys are awesome. You seem to be able to take criticism and turn it into profit and money. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for reading!
[/spoiler]

Any thoughts on my ideas, negative or positive, are perfectly welcome. Take them or leave them, it's cool.

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stylbonu.2da

March 8, 2016, 5:20 am

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So, there's been some discussion over in the Siege of Dragonspear forum about the fact that the game's four melee fighting styles aren't exactly... balanced. But we can change that, or at least we can try, by editing stylbonu.2da. My question is, what do you folks think would make the styles balanced? Limiting ourselves, for the moment, to the sorts of changes that can currently be implemented. That's THAC0, damage, armor class, AC vs. ranged, weapon speed, and crit.

Note that we can also modify the baseline "no pips" version of a fighting style, which is pretty cool.

My current thoughts:
One-weapon fighting needs to be better. Maybe a +1 to hit across the board, and higher THAC0/AC bonuses for the second pip? What about weapon speed bonuses?
Two-weapon fighting needs to be worse. I'm currently thinking a damage penalty to all attacks, maybe something like a straight -2, no matter the proficiency level?
Two-handed style probably needs the second point to actually do something other than weapon speed.
Sword and shield needs to be better at high levels, but doesn't really need much buffing at low levels. That makes it tricky. I'd really like to add physical resistances to this one, as that'd more-or-less accomplish that dynamic, but that can't currently be done as far as I know.

How does that sound? Do those sound like the right directions to go? Should bonuses/penalties be large or small? Do you have an edited stylbonu.2da of your own to share?

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Easter Eggs In Baldurs Gate Spoiler

September 9, 2012, 2:35 am

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Iwe heard something about a graveyard and some writing on stones in it...
Anyone knows how many Easter Eggs there are and where ?

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Denerim's Gate - Baldur's Gate in Dragon Age AU (Spoilers all over the place)

March 9, 2016, 9:33 am

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I lately got back into Dragon Age and at one point I had this totaly brilliant idea.
What if Baldur's Gate took place in Thedas instead of at the Sword Coast ...?

Here are my thoughts and make sure to leave your own below, in the hopes that we can make it a nice and tight AU together! (Probably gonna adjust the startpost over time as this thread progresses.)

Please note that I am gonna have to change/ adjust certain things about the characters of course, especially the races, since there are no gnomes, halflings, orcs or drow in DA. And hybrids aren't really a thing, they are super rare, so I am gonna have to make some changes there too.

Locations/ Organizations/ Stuff

Baldur's Gate --> Denerim
Candlekeep --> Circle of Magi at Lake Calenhad
Neverwinter --> Val Royeux
Amn (with templars in charge instead of mages) --> Kirkwall
Zentarim & Thay (we are gonna merge them for this) --> Tevinter
Harpers --> Grey Wardens
Rashemen --> ???
Kara-Tur --> ???
Icewind Dale --> ??? (Maybe the Kocari Wilds)
Deepwater --> Nevarra
Tethyr --> Anitva
Calimshan --> ???
Beregost --> Redcliff
Nashkel --> Lothering
Flaming Fist --> Denerim city guard
The Bhaalspawn --> Have parts of the souls of one of the Old Gods inside them

Charname Origins

Gorion saved you as a baby from a cultist ritual that was suppossed to revive an Archdemon and cause the next Blight. The ritual wasn't completed but the Archdemon's soul was shattered into countless pieces that merged with the souls of children all across Thedas. Gorion was instructed by the Wardens to bring you to the Circle of Magi at Lake Calenhad where he'd live undercover and make sure you are safe and under constant supervision. Only few others at the circle know about the soulfragment and Gorion's Grey Warden connection, yourself not included.

Templar squire: Human fighter & human rogue
Circle mage: All mages
Arcanist: Dwarven rogue
Stable boy/ girl: All rogues & all fighters

Characters

Ajantis Ilvastar: A templar who hails from a noble family in Nevarra. Maybe a Pethagast?
Alora: A surface dwarf from Denerim.
Branwen: Maybe an Avaar or Chasind witch?
Coran: Fereldan city elf
Dynaheir: ???
Edwin Odesseiron: Tevinter Magister of course
Eldoth Kron: Fereldan bard
Faldorn: Maybe a witch of the wilds?
Garrick: Bard from Redcliff
Imoen: Circle Mage
Jaheira: Elven Grey Warden from Antiva. Knight Enchanter class.
Kagain: Surface Dwarf mercenary
Khalid: Elven Grey Warden from Antiva.
Kivan: Dalish elf
Minsc: ???
Montaron: Surface dwarf from Tevinter
Quayle: This one is tricky. I should be a mage but dwarves can't be mages. So I'd make him an arcanist/ alchimist type.
Safana: Fereldan
Shar-Teel Dosan: Originally from Denerim
Skie Silvershield: Denerim noble
Tiax: A dwarven cultist who got kicked out of Orzammar.
Viconia DeVir: Tricky. Some very foreign elf, no idea from where though. Maybe a type of elven darkspawn who escaped her kin?
Xan: Dalish knight enchanter
Xzar: Low ranked Tevinter mage
Yeslik Orothair: I am not sure if priests Orzammar are allowed to be fighters, so I'd just make him a regular dwarf warrior who happens to be super religious.

Aerie: An Andrastian elven mage and former slave from Tevinter who was freed by Quayle.
Haer'Dalis: _Maybe_ and elven abomination ...? Don't know where he's originally from though. Maybe Val Royeux?
Jan Jansen: Surface Dwarf from Kirkwall
Keldorn Firecam: Kirkwall templar
Korgan Bloodaxe: Surface dwarf mercanary, probably originally from Orzammar.
Mazzy Fentan: Surface dwarf who wants to join the templars in Kirkwall.
Nalia deArnise: Fereldan noble (maybe from Highever?)
Valygar Corthala: Former Tevinter, now lives undercover in the Free Marches.
Yoshimo: Yeah ...

Baeloth Barrityl: Elven circle mage from Val Royeux and player of the game (like Vivienne in DAI). Or maybe like Viconia a type of Darkspawn.
Dorn Il-Khan: A Tal-Vashoth who is in a bloodpact with an ancient demon (pride demon?)
Hexxat: A type of revenant? No idea where she's from :I
Neera: Elven circle mage who ran away because after an accident she was suppossed to be made tranquil. Now the templars hunt her down. OR an elven slave who fled Tevinter.
Rasaad yn Bashir: No idea, because there are no kung fu monks in Thedas as far as I know o.o
Wilson: Wilson

Amelyssan: One of the cultists who tried to revive the Archdemon.
Bodhi: A banished Sentinel Elf rogue turned revenant.
Gorion: Undercover Grey Warden and a high ranking wizard at the Circle of Magi at Lake Calenhad
Irenicus: A Sentinel Elf who was banished from the temple because he tried to drink the Well of Sorrows and overthrow the temple.
Sarevok Anchev: Denerim noble

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Q&A for not so known lore

February 23, 2016, 1:52 pm

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The thread is designed for strange questions, answers,oddities and weirdness from the lore across Forgotten realms and fantasy.

Trolls have green skin as we know. But what is the colour of their blood?
Is it the same as their skin?

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5 APR from ie MMM's, do you use it or not?

March 10, 2016, 2:29 am

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Hello,

The question is simple: do you use the exploit to very easily get 5 APR for anyone by casting ie MMM or not?

There is no judgement in this question, just curiousity. I've tried to avoid it as much as possible, but recently fell for the lure of having my Blade do 5 APR on an Ipad playthrough. Now that I have done it once, will I be able to avoid doing it again?

Especially on the Ipad it becomes so dangerous since it's so much harder to do any small tweaking there compared to playing on PC, where I might have added other boons to CHARNAMEs.

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I want a druid/mage pretty please?

March 9, 2016, 7:25 am

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I know this has already being requested a couple of times and it might never come (atleast not anytime soon xd)
But can we have a druid/mage multiclass?

How could you deny this adorable little kitten? give use druid/mage multiclass now!

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Learning the rules of the games

March 10, 2016, 10:53 am

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Hey!

I've been off the BG saga for a while due to some personal reasons. But I did couple of runs about a year ago and I really enjoyed the trip. The only drawback was that I was completely relying on intuition and the explanations that game is giving (we all know that game tries to break you with no explanations whatsoever). I had some serious problems with different conditions, status effects, monster weaknesses, skill/spell mechanics etc. For instance, I still don't know what a round in game is and how to measure it. I kinda get the idea that it's the sequence for all the involved parties in (or out) combat to make a move (but then how can you have 1.5 attack/round? muaaaaa. You swing your weapon, swing it again but stop halfway, wait for everyone else to move/attack, then finish your halfway swing and do another one? aaaargh). Nevertheless, now I would like to start the game again, but this time I'm planning to go in prepared.

How did you learn the bits and pieces of the game? Did you really read trough the manuals? Isn't there some more user friendly way to do that? Just a quick glance at amazon got me averted from purchasing such a manual, as they cost around 30 bucks/book. I tried to search youtube for some rule explanations, but nothing came up. Wikipedia is often helpful, but there you really have to know what are you looking for (it is not written in a continuous manner) and it's sometimes an overkill of information. I found this manual http://www.beamdog.com/files/bg2ee/bg2eemanual1.pdf however, it seems that it only scratches the surface of the actual game mechanics and everything, focusing more on the lore and the general game-play.

Bottom line - how did you learn this game? How many times did you have to restart because you messed up your char with a bad level up or something?

Thanks for the input!

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Does the gog.com versions have the patches?

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One of the things I like about goodoldgames is that for most games there the previous patches remain available, even after a new one rolls out. So if you're ever in the situation where you find the latest version of a game to not be your cup of tea, you can stick with an earlier release. I'm wondering whether this is the case for BG(II):EE and ID:EE also though?

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Should Beamdog rebalance original content?

March 11, 2016, 6:20 am

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This appears to be a hot topic issue. What do you think? Do you think AD&D 2nd Ed. or Baldur's Gate is unbalanced? Do you think Beamdog should do something about it? Would you rather they rebalanced/redesigned the old abilities, classes, spells, and monsters that are too weak or too powerful, or should they leave them alone? Feel free to share your thoughts and discuss.

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Mob Scaling: Yes or No?

March 11, 2016, 8:38 pm

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One of the issues I have with BG is that while the non-linearity gives people more choice and helps the game feel fresh, the average mobs are quickly trivialized to the point that they might as well not exist. The areas are tuned in a way that it is possible for players straight out of Chateau Irenicus to tackle - and it makes things utter faceroll for characters with few more levels. I don't really find it fun to see band of goblins or orcs in dungeons that die in a touch.

There are few mobs that scale (Adamantite Golems, Elder Orbs, etc), but they are largely confined to certain areas and even these eventually can be overleveled.

On the other hand, some people hate level scaling because it removes a sense of progression. It is legitimate issue to have level 18 characters struggle to band of goblins, and while it can be circumvented with more elite mobs spawning in its place it can also create RP problems.

So are you for or against mobs scaling to match the player power?

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New players: how to wrap your head around thac0, AC, saves, and other "lower is better" scores

March 12, 2016, 10:56 am

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This is meant to help people who come from backgrounds of 3E+, or no D&D at all.

First: clear your mind of prejudices and preconceptions. Put out of your mind this idea that some people repeat: "2E is just weird, some stats you want to be lower, no one knows why." This is not true. If you stop worrying about which stats you want high and which stats you want low, and just think about the mechanics of what is happening, it will be much easier to understand.

Also, this idea that "people can't intuitively understand things when lower is better" is total BS. When you face a group of enemies, of course you intuitively understand that a lower number of opponents is better. There is no conceptual difficulty there. If you tell yourself something is hard to understand, it will be! So don't limit yourself with a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Second: the "roll against a score" mechanic. The main thing to understand is that this is a game about dice rolls. Specifically, 20-sided dice, called "d20." This mechanic is so ingrained in D&D that when the game system was open-sourced, the resulting ruleset was known as "D20."

Here's what happens: you have a score - maybe your to-hit score, or a saving throw, it doesn't matter right now, all that matters is the number. Let's say the number is 10. The mechanic is very simple: you roll d20, and if you roll the number or higher, it is a success. The key thing to understand about this is: higher is better... but we're talking about the roll. You want to roll as high as possible on that d20. Doesn't that make sense? Higher rolls are better rolls. Simple!

Third: applying this to attack rolls. Attacking opponents is probably the single most common thing that happens in these games. So how does is work? Simple: the game gives you a score that you roll against to hit the enemy. Roll higher than that score, and your attack is successful. Again: high rolls = success!

We call this score "THAC0," which stands for "To Hit Armor Class Zero." I'll get into Armor Class (AC) below, but for now think about that phrasing: "Armor Class Zero" means that AC is nothing, a nullity, something that does not factor into the equation. After all "3+5+0" is that same as saying "3+5," right? So, forget Armor Class.

So now, that score is simply your "to hit" score. You look it up on the class thac0 tables: 1st level fighters successfully hit opponents only when they roll a 20. 20th level fighters successfully hit opponents when they roll a 2 or higher. Higher rolls are better, but the score to beat changes as you gain levels, making it easier to succeed.

What about if you have some bonus? Elves get a bonus with bows, you can get bonuses from proficiencies, and you might be using a magic sword. So let's say a 1st level fighter gets his hands on the "Whistling Sword," which is a magical sword +2. How does that change things?

This is where most people have trouble: they think they have to convert that bonus into a negative number. But you don't! If you take nothing else away from this thread, at least remember this: that is not a "thac0 bonus." It is a "to hit bonus. It affects the roll, not the score. Again: the attack roll is what matters. The magical sword gives you a +2 bonus to your d20 roll, so now you are rolling 1d20+2 against your to hit score. You need to roll 20 or higher, and that 1st level fighter can now reach 22 with the roll, so he has a 3-in-20 chance to succeed instead of a 1-in-20 chance.

Fourth: adding armor class into the mix. This is much, much, much simpler than most people realize. Again, there is no need to worrying about "lower is better" or turning a positive number into a negative. It's super-simple: you simply apply your AC to the attack roll of the person attacking you. As in, just add it.

So let's say that 1st level fighter with thac0 20 is using the magical +2 sword to attack a thief with leather armor, which is AC 8. Again, everything goes into the attack roll: +2 from the sword, and +8 from the target's AC. Your thac0 is the same: your attack roll has to be 20 or higher to succeed. But, now you are rolling 1d20+10, which means the roll will be between 11 and 30. In that range, you now have a 11-in-20 chance to succeed with the attack.

Notice, we have not done any subtraction, we have not converted any bonuses into negative numbers, and we have held to the principle of "higher is better" - specifically, the attack roll should be as high as possible to match or beat the "to hit" number.

I will say this: Bioware and Beamdog have used some incorrect terminology at various places in this game, which tends to confuse things rather than clarify them. Specifically, in the description of most magic weapons, it says something like

THAC0: +2

which is wrong, it should really say something like

Attack rolls: +2

And in the character record screen, the game applies all the bonuses to your to-hit roll and subtracts them from your thac0, displaying the result. While this is mathematically correct, is is confusing because in D&D your thac0 score does not change like that. It would be clearer if the record screen showed a thac0 that *only* reflects your class and level, and then separately have a box for "attack bonus" or something like that, which will show the total combined bonuses for your attack roll.

Fun fact: 3E did not "invert" thac0, or abandon the idea of thac0. Rather, it just kept everyone's thac0 at 20, forever, and instead of changing thac0 at higher levels, it gives you a "Base Attack Bonus" to the attack roll as you level up. The mechanic is precisely the same; the only difference is in what you pay attention to - attack roll bonuses, instead of the number to beat with the roll.

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Dual class grandmastery

March 13, 2016, 9:50 am

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Can anyone tell me why a dual class, say a fighter dual to druid, can get grandmastery in weapon specialisation, but a multi class cannot? It just makes no sense to me as clearly the bonus focus on weapons comes from an inactive class int eh case of the dual. Is this something from pnp too??

Many thanks.

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Let's discuss the Steam Achievements

February 9, 2016, 3:35 am

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As mentioned in the latest Beamblog entry, Beamdog are in the process of testing the Steam achievement system. I've thought it would be a good thing to discuss this system as it's now, so that we could give them our feedback.

BGEE has currently only 5 achievements:

Loremaster - Have a Lore skill of 100 or more.
Untouchable - Have an Armor Class of -15 or lower.
Godlike
Dark Places
Dragon Slayer

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/228280/achievements/

BG2EE has a lot more:

[spoiler=93 achievements]

The Book of Kaza
Track down the Book of Kaza for Korgan.

Family Matters
Help Keldorn settle matters with his family.

Homecoming
Help Jan's loved ones.

Restored
Find a way to break Jaheira's curse.

Sisters
Help Mazzy Fentan's sister.

Absolute Power
Help Nalia prove the corruption within the Roenall family.

Spherical Stronghold
Acquire the Planar Sphere.

I'll Keep This
Acquire de Arnise Keep.

Peace At Last

Friends Like These

Planehopper
Rescue Haer'Dalis from a grim fate.

The Nether Scroll
Help Edwin track down the Nether Scroll.

Twisted Victory

A Battle for the Ages
Defeat Kangaxx the demilich.

Freedom
Free the mage, Vithal, in the Underdark.

No Child Left Behind
Find and return Garren Windspear's missing child.

Double Cross

Triple Cross

Reunited
Reunite Cernd with his estranged family.

I Dub Thee
See Anomen join the Order of the Most Radiant Heart.

To the Limit

Don't Mind Us

Guild Times
Acquire the thieves' guild.

Divine Domain
Acquire a chamber in your temple.

Black Dragon Slayer

Shadow Dragon Slayer

Red Dragon Slayer

Time to Slay

Silver Dragon Slayer

Green Dragon Saviour

Epic Priest
Reach level 30 with a cleric, druid or shaman.

Epic Warrior
Reach level 30 with a fighter, ranger, paladin, monk or barbarian.

Epic Rogue
Reach level 30 with a thief or bard.

Epic Mage
Reach level 30 with a mage or sorcerer.

In Balduran's Image
Don the sword, shield, helm, and plate of Balduran.

Ancient Power
Purchase the Robe of Vecna.

The Play's the Thing
Obtain the deed to the theater.

Home Grove
Speak to the Spirit of the Grove.

Cabin In the Woods
Acquire your own cabin.

Orderly Surroundings
Acquire a chamber within the paladin order.

Welcome, Brother

A Sister's Sacrifice

Legendary Relic
Construct Crom Faeyr.

The Holy Sword
Recover Carsomyr, the Holy Avenger.

Fury of the Heavens
Acquire the Celestial Fury blade.

Light in Darkness
Find the source of evil in the temple ruins outside the Umar Hills.

Fang and Claw
Put a stop to the strange animal attacks at Trademeet.

A Daring Escape

Worst Day Ever
Have Disease, Fatigue, and Poison active at the same time.

Best Day Ever
Have Bless, Chant, and Luck active at the same time.

Oathbreaker
Become a Fallen Paladin or a Fallen Ranger.

Picking Sides
Raised enough gold to hire assistance.

Across the Sea

To Hell and Back

Staked

Return to the Surface

Inmates Running the Asylum

Murder Incarnate
Kill 1000 creatures.

Villain
Acquire Despised Reputation.

Flying Solo
Complete the game solo.

Grandmaster
Become a Grandmaster.

Loremaster
Have a Lore skill of 100 or more.

Untouchable
Have an Armor Class of -15 or lower.

Lord of Murder
Complete the game on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty.

Friend of Volo
Complete the game on Story Mode difficulty.

Hero
Acquire Heroic Reputation.

Juggernaut
Reach 150 hit points.

Sacrifices Must Be Made
Finish the game with a full party of dead allies.

Leave No Friend Behind
Finish the game without any party members dying.

Shadow Ally

Friend of Darkness

Wand Collector
Disarm the traps in the lower level of the wizard's dungeon.

The Fifth Challenge

The Fourth Challenge

The Third Challenge

The Great Detective
Solve the Skinner Murders.

Best Friends
Return Wellyn's missing bear.

Trade Must Flow
Break the trade monopoly in Trademeet.

Close the Eye
Destroy the Cult of the Unseeing Eye.

Heart of the Abyss
Discover the secrets of the Planar Sphere.

New Ownership
Put Hendak in charge of the Copper Coronet.

The Second Challenge

The First Challenge

Felling the Giant

Hell's Pocket

Took a Chance

Unknown Risks

Dragon's Demise

The Seven Statues

Heavy Is the Head

Sieze the Throne

Solar Supremacy

Godlike
Increase an attribute score to 25.

[/spoiler]

http://steamcommunity.com/stats/257350/achievements/

I think that the BG games didn't need any achievements, but since they're already worked on, there's no harm in getting them.

My view is that there're too many achievements. 93 is too much. I see a lot of quest achievements and personally think that the majority of them are not needed. Maybe only the achievements about the main quest should stay, and about rare (more hidden) quests, like the Twisted Rune.

I like achievements that don't include any quests: Finish the game without any party members dying, Complete the game solo, Complete the game on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty.

The achievement I would like to be added a lot is Finish the game without the main character dying. BG has a rich history of no-reload runs and this achievement will really be of a help to us, no-reloaders.

Also, it's unclear how the "Flying Solo" achievement could be transferred to BGEE, since Imoen joins the party automatically.

I don't have a steam version of the game, but if I did, after the achievemens are added, I would be trying to get all of them, which would mean new and new runs through the game (and this is a good thing).

P.S. The visuals of the achievements are superb. The icons look nice.

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What are your favorite quotes, dialogs, and NPCs from the new content? (spoilers)

June 26, 2014, 1:45 pm

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Here are some of mine:

"I try to have at least three phenomenally bad ideas a day. I'm counting this place as two." ~Charname, spoken to Dragomir.
(I actually like a lot of Charname's responses in Dragomir's tomb but this is the best one.)

I like the monk that guards the bridge to the twofold temple. It is funny how subtly moronic he is. One of my favorite parts of that dialog:

[spoiler]
Charname: "How is it someone whose skull has never known the moist, warm touch of a brain can remember to breathe?"

Monk: "What're you getting at?"

Charname: "You're not very smart, are you? Quite the opposite, in fact. You're stupid. A dunderheaded moron. An idiot. A cretin. An oaf of such staggering thick-headedness that even other oafs look at you and say, "Wow, what a dimwitted simpleton he is." You're an imbecile, a dolt, a lackwit so lacking in wits that I can feel my mind growing more sluggish and dull each passing second I talk with you. You're senseless, obtuse, laughably thick: a clodpate. In short, what I'm saying, you lethargic dullard, is that you're a brainless lout too stupid to live. Therefore, and I say this with absolutely no regret whatsoever, I am going to kill you."

Monk: "Huh?"

Charname: "Just draw your sword and die, already."

Monk: "You think I'm stupid, PRO_RACE? I'll show you stupid!"
[/spoiler]

Then there is Baeloth. He is just great. One of these days I will have to finish the Black Pits 1&2...

Wilson's dialogs are funny too:

[spoiler]
Wilson: "Growl?"

Charname: "I am CHARNAME. What are you called?"

Wilson: "Growl. Growl growl."

Charname: "You call yourself Wilson? How pedestrian."

Wilson: "Snuffle growl."

Charname: "Forgive me. I didn't realize it was so common. To be honest, I've not had the opportunity to speak with many bears."

Neera: "Uh... You know that's a bear you're talking to, right?"
[/spoiler]

Does anyone else have any favorites in the new content?

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Area appears explored

March 14, 2016, 1:54 pm

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Hello guys!

I'm having some trouble with an area. Some time ago on my previous game, the area 0406, Copper Coronet, became corrupted. I fixed it with Near Infinity, extracting and then deleting the area. Then after awhile I added some merchants, and in general messed things up a bit. When I finished the game, I uninstalled it, but kept the contents of the override folder, only the ones with the most recent date modified, assuming those were the merchants I added, plus some items I changed a little.

Now I decided to play again, did a clean full install, and copied the override files I had kept. There were many ARE**** files, probably from the time I extracted them when I was fixing the area, but I only kept the ones related to ARE9496. Well, now the first time I enter the Copper Coronet, it appears explored, Lethinan won't talk to me, the guards are dead and the doors are open. I closed the game, went to the override folder and deleted all ARE0406 files, even the bonus merchant, but the problem persists. Even scanned the whole computer for any file containing 0406, but nothing. It is as if the state of the area was stored in any of the compressed BIF files, but how can that be if I did a new install and started a new game?

Any help will be enormously appreciated. BTW I don't know if this should be in the BG II EE forum, as I'm playing the original with ToB, not the enhanced dition.

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