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Icewind Dale 2 Race/Class Specific Content Question

June 17, 2015, 10:39 am
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Greetings, everyone. Been a little while since I posted anything, eh?

Well, @Nyrox and I continue to play multiplayer sessions, mostly of Icewind Dale EE (BG2EE multiplayer is still a bit wonky for my taste), but my interest shifted to the first IE game I ever beat and I've pulled him along for the ride since it's the only one we've yet to beat together as well.

Normally when we start a session, we each create three characters a piece (Baldur's Gate 1/2 is sometimes 1 or 2 characters a piece so we have room for NPCs), but we don't tell the other person what we're making. It provides a lot of interesting situations. No clerics. No rogues. Too many clerics. Too few arcane casters, etc...

Well, lately, we've taken an interest in all of the class/race specific content and dialog each of the games have to offer, but I've not found entirely too much information related to IWD2.

Does anyone know of a list somewhere or know off the top of their head some of the content that can only be obtained because of class and race? We're going to try to build a party together that will witness as much of the game content as possible. If it turns out successful, the plan is to do the same for IWDEE and probably the Baldur's Gate EEs as well.

Thanks for your time everyone :)
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Do you prefer Baldurs gate thieves or later thieves/ rogues?

May 20, 2015, 1:54 pm
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Why do Poor Enemies have Expensive Weapons? *Great Weapon Videos*

May 3, 2015, 5:33 am
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Why does a struggling Ireiaborian peasant-turned-bandit with only lowly leather armour have a long sword that he or she could not realistically afford?

Watch these videos about cheap weapons for the poor and inexperienced in the medieval ages:
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Think about it, swords are much harder to make than an Axe, Hammer or Spear yet how many Poor enemies do you see with a Long sword, Bastard sword and even Short Swords? Practically all desperate bandits that have so little training that they die with a maximum of two arrow hits yet they all carry expensive, metal extensive, labour and craftsmanship intensive Long Swords. I have been playing a Badass of a game called Mount and Blade: Warband and all of the poor down-on-their-luck combatants strictly do not have expensive 'anything' let alone a 'noble's weapon': the Long Sword. One sees re-purposed farming and hunting tools and makeshift armours for these lowly untrained malnourished combatants. This makes sense in a real worldly setting that in most cases these impoverished people cannot afford a proper meal let alone a luxurious Long Sword only affordable for the rich and influential.

I get it, in Baldur's Gate swords are cheap and [wait a second on that thought].. Stop typing and fire up Baldur's Gate and go to an Inn. What does the "8 Gold" "Royal" accommodation say within its description text?
-"A truly luxurious experience, at an equally exorbitant price. Beds filled with the softest down, draped with the finest Calimshan silks and linens. Nearly as restful as a week in a lesser room, though who but royalty could afford the cost."

So if only "Royalty" can afford an 8 Gold Lions room according to our Setting's economy, than how can masses of peasants-turned-bandit possibly afford a luxurious Long Sword with a incredulous price of 22 Gold Lions (with an average reputation)?

I hear you say "they stole them" quietly in your corner. Okay who from? Commoners don't have Long Swords nor do even the odd ruffian. Than who has these swords? Blacksmiths, Soldiers and Caravan Guards and Beings that could easily kill a poor malnourished peasant-bandit with ~8 Hit Points.

Okay so where do they get the Long Swords? "The Iron throne!"
-They are rife with the Iron Plague of the Sword Coast.. Their Employers would not cripple their own forces.

"They stole them from Graveyards and Buildings!"
-Then why is their not one reference of this nor a case of disgruntled towns people offering a single quest to adventurers to rid of these unhonourable thieves stealing all of their expensive weapons en mass?

"Near the end of Medieval Europe (Which 90% of AD&D is based on and deep in ancient lore Faerûn was once connected to earth) Plate armour and Swords were not uncommon for lowly foot soldiers to have so maybe bandits could have Longswords?"
-Plate Mail Armour in Medival Faerûn Costs 900 Gold Lions, no lowly soldier in this setting can afford Platemail Armour that costs 900 Gold Lions and with that said I am very surprised to see the low price and high amount of swords that are used by all ranks of guards and soldiers in Baldur's Gate when historically in Medieval Europe Axes, Polearms and or Blunt Weapons would be more cost effective for their ruling powers to equip them with; and thus 'nine times out of ten' the ruling parties bought just that for their standing forces: Axes, Polearms and or Blunt Weapons (secondary weapons such as daggers were mostly financed by the soldiers themselves). Look at what most of the Scottish and English troops were issued with respectively in The Battle of Flodden http://www.flodden.net/pages/tour/armed-for-the-fight . An interesting point is that when close melee happened, the over whelming majority of Scotts suffered direly from having no significant close quarters standard issue weapon and were thus massacred after their situational pike formations fell apart.

Lets face it, it was a bad judgement call from the developer who added Long Swords on the menu for the lowly peasant tuned bandit.

*Bam, Point Rekt -Interception was Successful*

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The Nightmare Mode Thread

February 7, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Post your Nightmare Mode experiences here, from challenges to fun moments.

Here's me killing Niz, the Black Dragon in Suldanessellar.

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Berserker 7/Cleric
Kensai 9/Mage
Inquisitor
Assassin 9/Fighter
Sorcerer

Apparantly Nightmare mode gives monsters 3 * Normal HP +80, so he should have 680 HP. I managed to deal 686, so that's pretty accurate. The reason I used such cautious tactics was to ensure easy tallying of damage.
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That One Enemy...

June 17, 2015, 7:40 pm
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Who is it? That one enemy type who makes you want to grind your teeth in frustration?

For me, it'd beholders. I like playing CHARNAME as an Abjurer, and having all that fancy defensive magic rendered basically useless is annoying as crap. I'm basically forced into marching one guy armed with Balduran's Shield forward and winning instantly, or else rushing them and praying to the RNG that someone gets through the Save or Die's to mulch them.
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New Content. When???

June 17, 2015, 8:54 pm
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One of.... No... The biggest reason I ponied up for all three Beamdog Enhancements is the new content. Ultimately it has been minimal. Mods already had most of it covered. But wishful thinking and hope drives me to support. But we have not rec'd crap since the initial releases. I am talking extra, buyable, downloadable content. I am more than willing to pay as I love the IE engine.

When will New content be available for purchase via the store? Is there a plan?

Beamdog, you up took the IE standard and became its bearer. You rekindled our hearts a few years ago. You are now the true IE fan's Obi-Wan. Help us Beamdog....
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Favourite Mage Spec.

June 18, 2015, 4:41 pm
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Uh, ok. Didn't mean to make this thread. Vote if you like though.

MODS HELP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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Misheard quotes!

November 15, 2014, 11:27 am
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This discussion was created from comments split from: Small things amuse small minds.

Because I thought it deserved its own thread! Post what you used to think the characters in BG were saying.
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NPCs you love to kill

April 3, 2015, 3:28 pm
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Got any NPCs that you enjoy putting an axe to?

For me, it's the guild leader of the baldur's gate thieves' guild.

He tells you that he has a job for you, planning to kill you when you are done.
If you insist on being paid upfront and knowing how much you are going to be paid, he attacks you.
If you do the job, he lets a powerful wizard attacks you, and only offers a half-hearted apology, explaining that he realizes now that it'd be too hard to kill you.

No reward. No real regret. No payment for a job that he sent you on. Just sadness that you are beyond his reach. There are few people as deserving of having the walls painted with their guts.

How about the rest of you? Any other NPCs that you enjoy taking down?
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Favourite Game?

June 19, 2015, 3:09 am
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As the title says. Which BG game is your favourite?
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Just started a new game

June 19, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Got out my old 4 in 1 boxset, installed it and Tutu'd BG for that classic experience. Started a Human Male Abjurer, got a good stat roll (after some time), breezed through Candlekeep, stepped out into the big, wide world, got instagibbed by a Diseased Gibberling in my very first fight outside Candlekeep.

Yep. It's Baldur's Gate alright. Anybody else ever had such a fun start to their adventure?
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Favourite Magic User

June 18, 2015, 6:15 pm
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As the title says. Which is your favourite type of arcane magic flinger?

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BGEE, BG2EE and IWDEE are 66% off on Steam

June 16, 2015, 4:36 pm
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Help with Hexatt's Final Quest

June 19, 2015, 11:15 pm
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I am in the tomb for Hexatt's Lich quest in Throne of Bhaal, I faced off against Hexatt's "old friend" and then she dissapeared, now I have no idea where to go from here, so True Sight or Oracle Spells reveal her location, and there appears to be so way to reach the rest of the Tomb.
Help, with minimal spoilers if possible.
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GoG Summer Sale (BG1EE, BG2EE, IWDEE)

June 3, 2015, 5:23 am
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Dragonspear Crusade?

June 21, 2015, 12:36 am
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The announcer during the Arena Battle in Neera's Quest mentioned us as the Victors of the Dragonspear Crusade, which is something I don't remember doing. Could somebody please explain to me what this is?
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The All Mighty Spelbook

June 22, 2015, 9:31 am
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So I've been wondering something for a whilw, especially when it comes to the D&D multiverse. Now I've never had the pleasure of playing the table top rpg, hell the closest u got was an online rp using 3rd edition rules and an online dice roller. Moving on... I have a question about spellbooks. I originally thought that they were just that, spell books with spells and incantations written in them. A spell book to a mage is what a sketchbook is to a artist. A collection of notes, thoughts, experimentations, and successful spells. But recently I've been wondering is the Spelbook an actual conduit for a mage to castba spell without divine/demonic assistance? Unlike sorcerers who are naturally born with affinity for magic and casting spells, a mage has to study and train.

So I find it hard to believe for example Dradee couldn't use dimension door to escape Ilse of Balduran because he didn't have his spellbooks, unless a mages spell book work as s magical conduit for spellcasting. Only reason he's been alive for 300 yeas is thanks to his god/goddess granting him little wards for survival, or so he says. Now, I wouldn't expect a mage to know EVERY spell or incantation by memory, but I would expect them to have at least a favorite spell or a super important spell, say one that can teleport them across matter and space known by heart.

If spell books are conduits, how are they chosen? I'm assuming I can't be a five year old, and just start teaching myself spellcasting from a scroll, grabbing random sheets of paper and building myself a journal as I practice. Something gas to turn them into conduits.
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Best Battle Theme?

June 22, 2015, 5:23 pm
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Suggestions for a mostly-warrior party.

June 22, 2015, 5:16 pm
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I've been playing the Baldur's Gate Saga since i can remember, played it so much back when it released that i melted my original discs in my computer, bought another set and played them to nearly the same state. Recently got the EEs, forgot what weapons go where (i can remember most of the locations, just can't remember what the "meta" was). Just hoping some fellow nerd could help me along.

My party is as follows:
Gnome Berserker, to be dual'd to mage at 13.
Cavalier, gonna use Carsomyr.
Elf Archer, Tuigan's/Gesen's
Half Orc Swashbuckler,
Haven't thought out the 5th (not going to use 6man party). Probably another Berserker dual'd into Cleric at 13

Thanks in advance

Agriel

(P.S This is my first post on Beamdog, this place has the weirdest category sorting, so if it's the wrong place, my bad)
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Beamdog Father's Day Sale—25% off all Enhanced Editions

June 21, 2015, 12:42 am
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